Remington Model 1917 Rifle Serial Numbers
I have a Remington and when I got it the bore looked like a sewer pipe. Once I cleaned it and shot it it was great.
This first day of production Remington bolt action rifle bears serial number 137. The British government armory at Enfield Lock, Middlesex, was founded in 1804.
Talking to the guys at CMP they said the grooves are cut so deep that it takes a lot of rounds to shoot the barrel out. Back in the day the they did not clean the barrel as they should which resulted in the dark bores.
CMP sold the SG for $450.00 and FG for $400 last time they had them. Use some of the WWII bore cleaner and elbow grease and I think you will be surprised PM me and I will give you my recipe that I used if you get one. IMHO and without SEEING each, I SUSPECT they could 'go' for anywhere from $550 to $900 (and I am being generous with the $900). A nice stock will help increase the value.and assuming the bore will 'clean up'. Example: I bought one from South Store a few years ago and tried and tried to clean up the bore.
It began to 'shine' somewhat BUT would NOT group worth dog do.No amount of 'cleaning' fixed up the grouping. Now.one could have installed a new barrel but.I already had a decent one. Basically gave it away locally.
Both stocks on the rifles look nice to me besides scratches and small dings everywhere.They both are very dark in color with no cartouches.The dull bluing on the receivers,parts,and barrels have small surface rust in places and light pitting.I do not think these rifles were ever rebuilt,but there is no way for me of knowing for sure.I have done auto body repair for 37 years now and i know my sandpaper grits.If anyone knows what 36 grit sandpaper looks like,that is what the bores on both of these rifles look like plus black as black can be.The price is $1,000.00 firm for the pair? Springfield064, if the bores are stygian and look like 36 grit *I* would not bother with them unless I could get them very cheaply, like $300/ea. I would not go anywhere near $1000 for the pair. The last one that I bought a few years ago cost me $450 and is VG/EXC condition with a pristine bore. --------------------- 10 years ago when the CMP sold their first limited group of VFW rifles, I was happy to see that I had scored a Service Grade ($450).
Unfortunately, something must have interrupted the inspection process because the bore was black with no evidence of rifling (the entire exterior is gorgeous, btw). After a lot of careful work I removed the BLACK (black powder residue) and exposed the rifling. The bore is uniformly, thoroughly and shallowly pitted.
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A condition that is right at the border of Pitted & Frosted. CMP, to their credit, had me ship it back to check my description, immediately downgraded the condition to Rack Grade and offered it back to me at the RG price ($350.
Btw, CMP bore all additional shipping costs). I think the thing that saved that bore/barrel from becoming a tomato stake was the thick coating of BP residue that eventually inhibited rust. The rifle is surprisingly accurate. I recently purchased a 1917 after researching current prices over the course of a few weeks. The rifle is to be used at CMP events, so I was more concerned with the barrel condition and overall function over original barrel and matching parts.
Based on old auctions and browsing forums for sold rifles, the high price mark I set was $700 (not including shipping, I have a C&R so no additional fees for x-fer). Some of the lower priced examples I found had finish / cosmetic issues or barrels with too much wear. Got word on 2 1917 shooters for sale locally via a guy I shoot matches with. He handled them and gauged the barrels, said they looked good to go.